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Nov142013

A7X Burns The House Down

Avenged Sevenfold recently played live in Boston. The band is playing live on the back of their new album Hail to the King. The album is easily one of the best of the year. While I basically love every song on the new album, "Unholy Confessions" (below) from Waking the Fallen remains my favorite A7X song period. Indulge me. Not Glam, but it makes me oh-so-happy.


Reader Comments (57)

So what band member from A7X are you dating.
Again you misunderstood what I was saying. I listen to all of the new music by new bands out there today and they suck, they can't play, they can't write good songs. It's not my fault that A7X and all the other new bands are crappy. I am always looking for new music from a new band but they all just think mediocre is good enough. That's why I am forced to resort to finding new bands/music in other places. Once again I would LOVE it if a new band knew how to play their instruments and/or write a song with a decent hook.

I have nothing against new bands making good music but it just hasn't happened in years. M.Shadows is simply awful,he makes Justin Beiber seem like Dio. For someone who claims to play a instrument you have a lot to learn about good music.

I only listen to talented bands. I don't care what decade a band got the there start if it is good music, then sign me up. I'm 24, I pretty much grew up hearing awful bands like A7X playing on the radio all the time.I can't take that crap. It's not my fault you are content with sub par music.

I also play guitar and bass and A7X's songs are very easy to learn. So your argument is flawed, it says more about your musical ability than anything else. I would never be a fan of any band If they couldn't play.
November 20, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBobby Sixxkiller
I thought you were joking as well Christian. At any rate you made me laugh out loud by the absurdness of your comments.
November 20, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrian Esperes
Bobby, I am sorry. You are a moron. Being able to play is DIFFERENT from 'making music I like'. You can hate A7X, and like Metallica and GnR and claim it's about the music and not about you hating a modern band because they are successful, but if you know anything about music, you'd know the music they make is THE SAME. Either way, hating them does not mean they 'cannot play'. So wait, you're saying you can play all the solos in A7X songs, and can't play the solos in Crue songs ? Yes, some of the rhythm parts are easy ( but not easier than crue songs ). So what ? It's also not a contest, you're the one who made the discussion asinine by claiming that guys who I guarantee can play rings around you, cannot play, because you don't like their music, for reasons that, I'm sorry, have nothing to do with the music, and everything to do with your fear of liking the same music as 13 year old girls.

Brian - if you don't play guitar, I understand why you would equate 'don't like it', with 'cannot play'. But, if you like it or not is up to you, and no-one can tell you what is 'good'. But, to say that they cannot play, is ridiculous and ignorant. And, as I said, Crue tune down lower than ANYONE in that era, because Vince could not sing the songs otherwise. Anyone who things he's a great singer is, again, ignorant about music. I LOVE the Crue. That's not my point. My point is, their glory days are gone, and you can't 'Bring Back Glam' by worshipping music that's 20 years old, and hating anything current if it is successful. If your definition of 'good' today REQUIRES failure, then that's self defeating.
November 20, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterChristian
Calm down, Christian

Maybe A7X can play well but it doesn't translate in their music. They don't understand how to write a good hook.I can't stand Metallica but they know how to play their instruments. I just find their lyrical content boring. I have no problem giving a band props if they know how to play even if I hate there music.

Both bands write simple songs that are easy to play on guitar (the solos on those A7X songs are pretty embarrassing) but the trick is that Motley Crue's songs are very catchy and get stuck in your head. A7X songs are so easy to forget. I love how Motley Crue tune down, A7X should start doing that. Maybe then It would make the lifeless vocals of M.Shadows be somewhat listenable. Maybe I would finally end up enjoying a A7X song.

Just because somebody may or may not be a better musician, it doesn't translate into good songwriting. You don't need to be a technical wizard to write a hook filled song. A7X just have a knack for writing bland boring songs. If that type of music is good enough for you then so be it.

I don't know what contest you are talking about. I was just trying to help you not sound so misinformed in future posts. Remember, I wasn't the only one who thought you were joking.
November 20, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBobby Sixxkiller
Actually, A7X does tune down, but often to a drop tuning ( because the lowest note is the only one that is 'lower', the end result is the same. I'm sorry, I refuse to believe that you can play guitar, and you think the fast alternate picking and sweep picking in an A7X song is comparable in difficulty to the riffs that Mick Mars plays. That's just not possible. Some of the dropped D riffs ARE easy to play, I agree, and it's about hooks, not technicality, and if you think A7X have no hooks, I can't argue, that's a question of what you like.

I know there's plenty of people here who think that if a modern band is successful, they must suck. Nickelback sounds EXACTLY like 80s Poison/Bon Jovi, except the ballads are good. But, they are successful, so everyone who loves that sort of music, hates them. I just don't get it.

Kirk is a great guitar player, but he could not play the average A7X song. Or if he could, he has technique he does not use in Metallica. He's been simplifying his playing since the black album. The main thing the two bands have in common, is songs with a lot of different sections, as opposed to the one riff being played over and over. Both approaches can make good, and even great music. But, if you don't like Metallica, I can see why you don't like A7X.

Saying that A7X is 'good enough for me', and then telling me to 'calm down', does not work. It's not 'good enough for me'. It's excellent, it's full of hooks, and it's well written and well played. You're welcome to disagree on if the songs are good, if you like the hooks, whatever. You cannot disagree that the guys in that band are excellent players, with a lot of technical skill. That you refuse to accept that is the main reason I am bothering with this, because it's just ignorant.
November 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterChristian
You are missing the point. I don't care what music is popular. If every single band I loved filled the Billboard top 100. I wouldn't give a flying $h!t. I don't care about stuff like that. I don't follow trends, never have and never will. All of the bands I love are before my time. I was 5 when Kurt Cobain committed suicide.

I don't like Metallica but they are a million times better than A7X. You have no idea what you are talking about Nickleback sound nothing like Poison. As for the simplicity of the A7X songs, it's becoming quite obvious it takes a lot longer for you to pick up how to play another bands song. I'll just leave it at that because your responses give me a headache.

Alright, you got me A7X does have some dull lackluster hooks.
Actually quite a lot of pedestrian hooks, so I apologize about that. Being a fan of A7X is nothing to be ashamed of, the heart wants what the heart wants (ignorance is bliss).

Ghost Of The Robot is a excellent newer band.Do yourself a favor and check them out.
November 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBobby Sixxkiller
Dude Christian, I originally assumed you were joking too but reading the things you say now, knowing you are serious makes it even funnier. I like a decent amount of new bands but Avenge Sevenfold are just trash. I totally understand Bobby Sixxkiller's comments, even though I dig some new bands the songs they write just can't hold a candle to the bands before them. Nirvana changed the course of metal's future. You can tell bands like Motley Crue and Hanoi Rocks we're influenced by bands like Aerosmith and Sex Pistols and it shows. Nirvana was influenced by Black Sabbath and the Beatles and it shows. Blind Melon was influenced by Led Zepplin and the Beatles and it shows. I've read interviews with new bands where they say who they grew up listening to but there songs never remind me of what they said. I love Nirvana but they changed metal for the worse. The evolution of it all made sense from the 60's, 70's, 80's, to the 90's but after Nirvana it's never been the same.
November 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterDevon
Bobby - I get it. I get that you don't even see how your perception of new music is altered by how it's packaged. And yes, A7X, today, sounds EXACTLY like old school metal. That's what they set out to do, and they did it. If you hate the new album, you hate metal, or you hate A7X no matter what they do. Your 'I don't follow trends' screed does translate easily to 'I am proud that what I listen to is not trendy', which is my point. How many trendy bands do you like ? Is it none because they are magically ALL bad, or because that's your filter ?

Metallica WERE better than A7X. I'll take Master of Puppets over Hail to the King. I'll take Hail to the King over Death Magnetic, any day. That's kind of the point.

Again, I can play ANY Crue song, most Priest songs, any Maiden song, just by listening to it. I suspect you can play a little guitar and you made the rest up based on your assumptions. A7X solos ARE harder than Metallica or Maiden, and at least as hard as the most difficult Judas Priest solos. Difficult does not mean good. It's just that what you said is ignorant.

Nickelback play based rock music with lyrics about sex. That's how they are like Poison. Just like Poison put an 80s twist on Sweet, and didn't sound like them, Nickelback are part of the same progression. But no-one here can hear that, because they are terrified of liking something popular, or they've only heard ballads on the radio and made assumptions ( they DO have more ballads, but they are also BETTER than any 80s ballads I remember ).

Again, if you think they have no hooks, or lacklustre ones, that's a question of what you like, and not worth arguing over. I also like country. I like good playing and good songwriting, cross genre, but my definition of 'good' will not be yours, with neither of us being wrong. I did not want to press that point, just the point that A7X are very good players, because they are, and to claim otherwise, belittles anything else you have to say.

I DO like a lot of obscure bands as well as popular ones, I will try to check out 'Ghost of the robot'. Also excited to see Jake E Lee has new stuff coming, and loving the new Stryper.
November 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterChristian
Hey Devon

You're welcome to not like A7X ( although I don't see how any metal fan who heard their new album cold, could hate it, I think people hate it BECAUSE it's A7X ). The reason they 'can't hold a candle to the bands before them', is because of how the old music is ingrained in you, because of how often you've heard it, and that you grew up with it. Personally, I love the old stuff, but I think the new stuff, is often better, or at least, fresher and more interesting, today. I admit, I went through a cycle of revisiting the old bands before I started to discover new ones, but I flatter myself that the new ones sucked at the time :-)

Nirvana was crap, as you say. But the cycle of metal vs punk has gone around several times now. Metal was supposed to be dead in 1980, we all forget that, but it was. It's a cycle, it's only an evolution in hindsight, because it never goes away, even when it's pushed underground. Thankfully, it's back on top today, with bands like Trivium, Five Finger Death Punch and A7X adding to the spectrum of what metal is, just like the bands in the 80s did before them, and creating music that will, in 20 years time, be defended by people who are 15 today as SO MUCH BETTER than the terrible metal being made 'today'
November 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterChristian
now now christian...perhaps you didn't get the memo that this is my playground. just kidding...a little. Don't take my support over metalboys attacks too far. It will bite you in the ass. trust me.
November 21, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterfletch
I'm not sure that I was counting on your support, sorry. I'm just saying what is true; politely where possible, but responding to attacks and ignorance when necessary. I did realise bobby is right. A lot of modern bands are more heavy than pop and so don't have hooks per se. If he hates Metallica, he'll hate a lot of modern music. And that's his right. My beef is with the claim that if he doesn't like it, they must not have technical skill.
November 21, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterchristian
I was born in the 80's. The 60's/70's was before my time but they had some cool bands. By the way I said I love Nirvana in my post.But for you to think somebody hates all metal because he isn't obsessed with Avenge Sevenfold is insane logic. Not everybody is supposed to love the same bands.I would never say somebody hates all metal because they don't like my favorite band. I like new bands Five Finger Death and Trivium are good for what's available today from new bands but Avenge Sevenfold are just painful to listen to.
November 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterDevon
In the immortal sarcasm of metalboy...bra ha haha
November 21, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterfletch
Just because I don't follow trends doesn't mean I refuse to like a band because they are new and popular. If a new band is popular and has good music, that would be really cool. I'm all for that, I would be thrilled. The music scene today is just embarrassing to me. I felt that way since I was a teenager.

Two People can love different things we're just going back and forth making no progress. You love A7X and I don't. At the end of the day that's what makes this world so great.
I don't want to argue with you bro.

Let's make a truce:
If you'll check out Ghost Of The Robot with a open mind.
Then leave me a list of a handful of new bands
and I'll check them out as well with a open mind.

Life's too short it's time to rock!!!
November 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBobby Sixxkiller
You see what I have to...
November 21, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterfletch
Bobby, I agree. Of course we can differin what we like. I was only ever astonished at the claim they are not good players.
November 21, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterchristian
Man, where was I during Acts II, III, IV of this Comedy.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, Christian. It is time for you to legally change your name. What would Jesus say?

Calling that nice young gentleman, Bobby Sixxkiller, a "moron"?! Shame on you. And using the term "obscure" is inherently derogatory. I'm still mystified why you (and Allyson) consistently insist on using it to describe music that should rightfully be called "hidden gems".

Still, for all your lack of taste and true knowledge of Metal and all it's sub genres, you do OCCASIONALLY show me faint indications of hope (but sadly, too late to save yourself from the fickled fingers of fate of The Metal Gods), as with your positive review of Stryper's new one. THAT we CAN agree on! I dare say, I believe Michael Sweet's stints fronting 70's icon, BOSTON, rubbed off on him.

By the way, your foolish ignorance is ultimately revealed in your equating of Poison with Sweet, as that is WAY off, since EVERYONE else on here knows that's Johnny Thunders' riffs C.C. apes while he and the rest of the band TOTALLY copped The New York Dolls' look as did the rest of our GLAM heroes.

Bon voyage, Christian. See you in HELL!!!
November 26, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!

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