RATT, Skid Row Tour Rumor

The rumor about the next big summer tour announcement has hit Blabbermouth. The big talk is that RATT, Tom Keifer, Skid Row and Slaughter will hit the road during the warm months. This goes back to the Eddie Trunk tweet I shared a couple days ago. I think this sounds like a fun package. But who headlines - RATT or Skid Row? I guess RATT edges out the Skids, but by a tiny amount. Thoughts?

Rumor: RATT, TOM KEIFER, SKID ROW And SLAUGHTER To Team Up For Summer U.S. Tour https://t.co/zx8oCGOQSb pic.twitter.com/bhuWsRsQwu

— BLABBERMOUTH.NET (@BLABBERMOUTHNET) February 18, 2020

Comments

[stu]

i’m sure i’ll go if this does materialize. but really, these package tours have to stop. most of the fans of these bands are to getting too old to stay up late enough to see four bands in one night. and for this one, it’ll be at clubs instead of “stadiums” so standing that whole time will suck.

[Bkallday]

So Skid Row without Bach & Keifer without Cinderella & Ratt with only 2 original members? This will be a very hard pass for me. Some of you must really be desperate to attend this embarrassment. I can see it now, half of Keifer's set is his miserable solo crap, and Skid Row will do half a set with their even more miserable crap, they've done without Bach. The sheds they play will be 75% empty at least. Excuse me while i go vomit in a bucket. Dont even begin to lump these fools in with real bands that do legit stadium tours, either.

[steverox]

So I'm sure RATT will headline this. There is a rumour online that there may be lineup changes, but regardless I've seen the current lineup twice (including once in Cincy), and thought they were awesome. No idea if that means more original members, or less though less is almost impossible as there are only 2 left.

Agreed, it is pretty sad that no acts are close to "original" ... a missing guitar player/drummer ... a missing lead singer ... a missing band ... and then Slaughter may be close to original depending on who plays drums (hoping for Zoltan, but have heard Blas is back).

I would go see this if they're nearby and ticket prices are OK. Curious what types of venues they'll play. I guess smaller amphitheaters will work like Iroquois amphitheater here in Louisville, that would definitely be a great venue for this type of show. This is bigger than clubs though ... at least theaters like what Tesla is playing, but in the summer I'm thinking smaller outdoor venues.

[Bkallday]

No way in hell this will be at any amphitheater. More likely community bingo halls and available ymca's.

[GNR]

Little heavy on over saturation of concerts this year... guess the economy must be doing well :)

[steverox]

I laughed at Bingo Halls. I don't know man, it seems to me venues of around 3K-6K would be about right ... which I think is in the wheelhouse of smaller amphitheaters. If not that, then larger theaters. I mean, if Tesla by themselves can do a US tour of larger theaters, then this bill should be able to?

And TOTALLY AGREE with oversaturation of tours this summer. For this summer, I'm already broke after buying tix for Rammstein, Stadium Tour (Motley/DL/Poison), Green Day, Sammy/WS/NR, AC/Tesla/Lita ... Ozzy just canceled his tour so there's that. It does seem like a lot this summer. And my wife wants to go see the Rolling Stones in Louisville now, sigh ....

[Metalboy!]

I’m with BK!

Why even entertain going to see this charade of a tour?

What a bunch of SKABS!

It should be called The S.K.A.B.R.S. Tour! “S” for Skid Row, “K” for Keifer, “A” and “B” for ... Well, not sure what the h*ll they’re for ... “R” for RATT and “S” for Slaughter.

What a joke!

p.s. Sorry to hear you are broke, Steverox, as I find myself perpetually in that situation often. But that could have been avoided simply by not purchasing tickets for TESLUG (Sorry, Alice and Lita!)!

[Bkallday]

Tesla is a band with mostly all original members, though. Plus theyve been consistently releasing solid material(sans "Shocked") for the last 2 decades or more.

[Gary]

I'm with Bk and Mb. They should push this back to early fall. That way they could play halftime at high school football games nationwide. Ratt Without DeMartini and Blotzer should be called Gerbil, ,and Skid Row without Baz ought to go by Skid Mark...

[Bkallday]

Lmao

[Jack T Ripper]

Haters gonna hate!!! I for one will be smack Dab front and center for this!!!!!!! Yea Baby!!!! 4 more Glorious Years!!!!!!!

[Metalboy!]

Hahaha!!!, Funny Gary, unless this is Unfunny Gary doing an impression of Funny Gary, in which he succeeded ...

Anywho, I wasn’t remarking about Teslard’s band member origins. I was simply pointing out that Steverox could have saved money by not spending it in having to giving Tesla a standing ovation and then halfway through asking yourself why because their sh*t is so boring. And the fact they’re complete as*holes.

At least BK and I can agree the SKABRS Tour is a COMPLETE waste of time, as so comically pointed out by Gary.

[fletch]

Off topic, but I have shared parts of my life from time to time on this website. I received a call from the School Superintendent the other day. My heart jumped out of my chest. Having worked "in the system" for so long, I am used to getting calls (both personally and professionally) from teachers, school nurses, case managers, guidance counselors, vice principals, principals, school psychologists, the Special Education department, etc... But, I've never received a call directly from a Superintendent. Every negative thought raced through my head. What happened? It had to be catastrophic. I got light-headed. What did my child do? Who did what to my child? Which child???

No. He just wanted to speak to Unfunny Gary. He is putting together an anti-bullying task force and my name was recommended to him by the Director of Special Education, who believes that I would make an invaluable contribution to the team, so he invited me to join.

[Bkallday]

^^^Zzzzzzzzzz

[Him]

A mid-tier to lower-tier tour, priced right, is not a bad night out if there is nothing else competing with it. It could fill a small indoor venue (I am thinking about places, now gone, like the Avalon or the Rockbar in the Bay Area) or even perhaps get a reasonable crowd at a place like the Concord Pavilion on a slow night. Note those qualifiers, though, ladies and gents. At a place like Shoreline, this would be a T-shirt cannon of free GA tickets aimed left and right!!!

And why are we complaining about having too many options? I'd rather have a range of options than none at all, or at least a few options that are not over-priced. Few original members? Oh, yeah, I forgot. That is the bright-line for some of you. Well, that is going to continue to be a problem going forward. So you can move the market by avoiding shows like this, and then you can save your money for the 'stadium' shows. I guess I don't get the argument against more choices . . . as in, you . . . have . . . to . . . make . . . a . . . choice.

[Bkallday]

Yeah as long as founding members continue being selfish and stupid, they will continue kicking out other original members, in order to get more scratch for themselves. No doubt that will continue to be a problem. And it will continue to be a sore spot for ppl like myself that deserve better.

[Metalboy!]

Hear, hear, BK!

Say NO to mediocrity!

The choice made by those few who won’t settle for less is DON’T GO unless the original members are willing to get back together ...

Boycott the SCABS!

p.s. Hilarious, HIM! This in regards to your T-Shirt Cannon full of GA Tickets, for a minute there I thought you were Funny Gary, obviously not UNFUNNY Gary!

... er ... SKABRS!

[Him]

I think we agree on most of this, Bkallday.

Pearcy is a sleazy left-over from an almost was career that was done in, by and large, by his and his bandmates' appetite for destruction. He is opportunistic, as is Croucier.

Tom is high and mighty, but also putting his foot down re: Labar. He doesn't need them, just like Michaels often doesn't need the other guys. Or so he thinks.

Skid Row is run by a committee of two, or more likely one. Bas shot so many feet he should own a store that has the word "locker" in it. On one level, their reticence is principled. On another, it hurts their career. Thing is, they don't seem to care.

Slaughter is Slaughter. Mark has made a living outside the band and still makes room for the band. The one time I met him, he struck me as thoughtful and grateful. He is no Plant. But at least he tries.

Is a lot of this related to being selfish? Sure. Stupid? On some level, yes. But we only get what they put out there for us. So, yes, by all means, boycott mediocrity and sign Metalboy!'s petition at GoFundYourself. Know, though, that even that has a time stamp. Once gone, you got nothing left to punch. So, good or bad, tours like this are still an option, a choice. And, for a cheaper night out the could actually be fun, at times. But that requires you to slip on some rose colored glasses, have a drink or two, and just learn to accept the fact that your options are, across the board, limited. And they won't be getting less so in years to come.

Think about it. A funny story about a horrid performance by some also-rans or a surprisingly good set by some people trying to make a living. The other option? No. All of those options are fine. Just remember: the options are not getting better.

[Bkallday]

That's your opinion, which you're certainly welcome to. Him. But we will absolutely agree to disagree! There are plenty of new(ish) bands out there to help you forget about these has been scab acts. I will be spending my money on bands like Dirty Honey, Avatar, Bad Wolves, Pop Evil, Sebastian Bach, etc. No way am i contributing to this weakass self-serving practice. Im sure they may make enough money on the tour to pay some bills though.

[Him]

I still think we agree on most of this, Bkallday. But I am okay with a disagreement every now and again too.

I do support newer bands like Dirty Honey and Joyous Wolf, as well as nostalgia acts like Tygers that still bring it. I would also go to see Bach on his new tour; same with Tate as his pipes seem better and he seems a bit less annoying. It isn't, at least for me, about choosing one over the other necessarily (and esp. when it comes to newer bands or long-standing bands that are not top-tier stadium bloat festivals). With lower cost acts, I can afford to spread the wealth and spend my scratch seeing has-beens, up-and-comers, and the occasional top-tier band as well.

If there is one point it seems we disagree on, it is the use of the term SCAB. To me, those new players are trying to make a living. Some of them do it well. Some don't. But I don't begrudge them a chance to earn. There is no picket line in music. They were called, they interviewed, they got the job. And I may like the music but question their boss(es): see Pearcy. And you also bring up how slippery all this is when you start thinking about it. Is Hayley Cramer a SCAB? How about Tim Öhrström? Brent Woods?

Say it all the time, the market decides. We are part of that market. That you and I pick (oftentimes, but not always) different spots is fine and fair and dandy.

Appreciate your POV, Bkallday. Truly.