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Apr012015

L.A. Guns Playing Dayton This Weekend

I wrote this feature for the Dayton City Paper. L.A. Guns will play at Oddbody's in Dayton this weekend. I thought you might be interested.


 

“We love touring all over the world, but there’s no place like playing in the U.S.,” exclaims L.A. Guns drummer Steve Riley. “The fans here are so knowledgeable and cool to us. We feel like we’re friends with a lot of people all over the country.”

L.A. Guns will bring a piece of California’s Sunset Strip to Dayton’s Oddbody’s Music Room on Saturday, April 4.

If you’re not a big fan of ’80s metal, then the band L.A. Guns might just be a foggy memory. Or you might think of them as “Axl Rose’s band before Guns n’ Roses.” If you’re big into the ’80s hair scene, then you know all about Axl leaving, singer Phil Lewis coming in, original guitarist Tracii Guns, two touring versions, lawsuits and now the current incarnation of the band, still fronted by Lewis but without Guns.

The first incarnation of L.A. Guns formed way back in 1983. In the years since, the band has released more than a dozen albums.

“We’re really proud of our repertoire,” Riley says. “A lot of bands from the ’80s say ‘I wish we’d done that differently.’ I don’t think we do. It’s not us just pumping our chests out, saying we love everything we did. We’re so proud to be able to go around the world and have a repertoire of songs that everyone knows. We go around the world, play our own songs, no covers, and that’s very fortunate.”

Still a good draw, the members of L.A. Guns tour off and on throughout the year, every year. The days of the big tour bus and driver are gone. Now, it’s airports, rental cars and weekend runs and back home in between. This saves money and sanity.

“When we first started we were always on a bus,” Riley says. “But now we’re used to it and it is fun and we get to come back and forth to home so it’s all right.”

Still, the desire to do a proper tour with another national act is there, and Riley says L.A. Guns may soon team up with fellow glam metal rockers Faster Pussycat for a string of dates. This would mean renting a tour bus and doing things old school, like back in the heyday of the 1980s.

Since L.A. Guns is a road band at heart, the quartet writes while on the road. Singer Phil Lewis recently announced the band would be hitting the studio soon to record a blues album.

“We play straight rock and roll,” Riley says.

His statement is more definitive than explanatory: “We’ve never gotten too heavy or too fluffy. Not to compare us with the Rolling Stones because they are so huge, but they play straight rock and roll and that’s pretty much what L.A. Guns is too – we’re a straight rock and roll band. With that straight rock and roll, we’ve always had a blues influence in us. We’ve always loved the Stones, Led Zeppelin, Humble Pie doing the blues. Our new record will be a rock album with a blues feel. We don’t want to scare people into thinking we’re working on a slow, plodding record. We’re not.”

The band members will take the rest of the year to write around 25 songs and continue to work on them, whittling their choices down to the top 12 or so. Those 12 best songs will make the cut and be recorded at the end of the year and in early 2016. Before the band can get to the recording stage, they do all their pre-production work in a rehearsal space, avoiding the costly expense of piecing songs together while in the actual recording studio. This means recording is down to a near science, with Riley laying down all his drum tracks for an entire album’s worth of songs in just a couple days.

Some of those new songs will get worked out during sound checks before shows. While the band doesn’t necessarily have any plans to add new songs into the set, Riley admits they always add a few surprises or nuggets into each show for the die-hard fans.

For Riley and the rest of L.A. Guns, playing at Oddbody’s is familiar. The band stops in Ohio with quite a bit of regularity. Riley says the band likes to play here because its fanbase is so strong.

“Ohio’s such a rock and roll state! Most bands come in and out of Ohio a couple times a year now” he says. “We’re looking forward to coming back there – it’s always fun. You can spend a couple weekends playing there. The whole Midwest area… well, people don’t realize how many rock and roll fans are there. Way more than the East and West coasts. The Midwest is just stocked with rock fans. We play a lot of shows in the Midwest. Ohio’s beautiful and the people are great there.”

L.A. Guns will perform on Saturday, April 4 at Oddbody’s Music Room, 5418 Burkhardt Rd. Doors open at 7 p.m. Concerts at Oddbody’s are 18 and older. Advance tickets for L.A. Guns are available now for $20 or $25 at the door, day of show. For tickets or more information, please visit laguns.net or oddbodys.com.

Reader Comments (25)

Riley is happy? at 65,,no regrets? Playing bowling alleys and dive bars for 100-200 people on a Friday? yeah ok, "duck!, s**Ts flying!"
April 1, 2015 | Unregistered Commenterspyke
Thanks once again for posting your longer pieces, Allyson. I always enjoy reading them.

Made me laugh, Spyke. Still, life for Riley now has to be better than being stuck in the meat-grinder that was W.A.S.P. That said, those second and third albums he plated on hinted at something far more lasting and consistent, if not as explosive and raw, as the first one.
April 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterHim
LMFAO Spyke! I agree with Him in that Riley probably figures that playing in front of those 150 people at "Psycho Sams House of Chlamydia" in Bilgewater Arkansas still beats dealing with the 400 lbs of narcissistic egotism that is Blackie Lawless.
April 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterGary
One band that I wish would come around more often. And hell, I'll gladly go to the House of Chlamydia to see them :) (still laughing at that one)
April 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterGNR
I'm up in the air on this. Oddbody's is like 30 minutes from my house, and I love L.A. Guns. The problem for me is Michael Grant. I dig his old band Endeverafter, but the dude overplays everything in LAG. I don't mind a guitarist showing off a little bit, but not acting like Steve Vai and Yngwie's lovechild in every song.
April 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterJason
Jason,sounds like he has a bad case of "Schonitis" (Neal Schon from Journey suffers from/wrote the book on what you are describing about Grant.) Lol
April 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterGary
I am going just north of Dayton on Saturday night to see Stephen Pearcy at the BMI Speedway instead.
April 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterKenny Ozz
Gary, Jason, Spyke, you all made me laugh w/ your dead on perceptions.... Micheal Grant is average at best, as a guitarist. His predecessor, Stacey Blades is still a guitar teacher, Micheal would do well to book a few lessons with him... If only he can find the time, in between drug busts.

* P.S. Gary, Let's be fair, my mentor, Blackie Lawless is only 350 lbs of narcissistic egotism... but he's still a hell of a songwriter.
April 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
F Like A Beast
April 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterBadland
I agree with you Ace. The last two W.A.S.P. albums have been great. "Babylon's Burning" is one of his best ever, IMO. I wish other bands of the Strip's heyday could still write like Blackie.
April 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterJason
Ace.Agreed.Mr. Duren is a Helluva songwriter,and an even better businessman.😉 (I also read he was a veritable magnet to the opposite sex back in the day on the strip,and this was when a WASP was playing to 100 a pop at The Whiskey,long before they were famous) It also Said he was a special effects guy for movies also at the time? That he built all kinds of crazy shit for their early stage shows. Once a showman,always a showman. Gotta give him his props.He knew it what people wanted at that point,and was smart enough to give it to them....
April 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterGary
Riley is a TOTAL BADASS in WASP's "Wild Child" video and I told him so on The Monsters of Rock Cruise a couple years back. I didn't even mention L.A. Guns as they could have been WASP's bellhops back in the day.

That said, Tracii Guns is a helluva guitarist and in my mind, Grant fills his shoes better than any of the other guitarists who played before him after Tracii left.

Why?

Because Guns overplayed the sh*t, too!

I've seen L.A. Guns 10 times since 1987 when I first caught them in L.A., the last 2 times with Grant, point blank, natch, and I can tell you, he blew the frickin' roof off the boat.

I also complimented Phil Lewis on the song "Underneath The Sun" from their latest album, "Hollywood Forever", is as good as anything they've ever recorded, IMHO, proof that they've still got it.

And now, with Kenny Kweens back on bass, you've got Lewis flanked by two great showmen plus a kicka*s drummer behind him.

Now, speaking of showmen... No doubt, Lawless is a narcissist but still a helluva talent. I saw WASP at M3 a couple of years ago and it was phenomenal except for the corny retrospective "concept" of the stage show using multimedia behind them playing old videos on the back drop with a "WASP, 25 Years of Rock & Roll" banner across it.

Now that I hear that he's an longtime AV guy who did a lot of movie projection in the early days, it explains why he added this layer to the show he simply did not need.
April 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
Blackie's expertise at building special effects was primarily building dry ice fog machines. He also was pretty good at building a decent phoney Marshall amplifier speaker cabinet. Having a basic knowledge of a few simple things, he got pretty far. He also figured out & designed the original propane gas WASP sign. (Which he described as simply your standard gas fireplace element, on a much bigger scale...) He simply knows how to study something, & then think outside the box.
April 3, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
Some wonderful insights into Lawless in these posts.

I only wish he wasn't so self-absorbed and was willing to let in a bit of outside influence and direction. I could care less that he cancels shows or that he is a religious fellow these days.

But he seems stuck. It would almost seem like anxiety/panic attacks if you stacked all of it together. And all of that sits uncomfortably next to all of his assets: talented writer, unique vocalist, gifted showman. He pushes people away and suffers no opinion but his own. I get it. He has a vision. But what of the tunnel?

Glad that _Golgotha_ found a label. But I am less and less inspired the more and more he keeps living in the past while attempting to assert his relevance in the current musical climate.
April 3, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterHim
I find one of Riley's quotes to be an interesting topic of discussion -- maybe for a separate post or something? "The whole Midwest area… well, people don’t realize how many rock and roll fans are there. Way more than the East and West coasts." My question is, why? I've never been able to figure out why the coasts have all, but abandoned good ole rock 'n' roll. Anybody have any theories?
April 3, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterBob
Bob,
I'll try & give you a short version which might be a bit of over-simplification.
The Mid-West is full of hard working people who just seem to lead a simpler, more basic, grass roots existence. While the NY/LA/SF scenes all had more flash, less substance. Lots of bands are regional hits out there long before they make a splash in the "media outlet" cities. It worked for Rush, Kiss, Styx, REO etc. like that. all big in the mid-west long before they blew up on a national scale.
April 4, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
Ace, my good sir, expanding on your comments, I'd be interested to know why you think it is that, bands that eventually became nationally famous can't get arrested now on the coasts, but people still come to see them in the mid-west. I read about all of these Summer festivals with bands that I'd love to see, but they are all at least 1,500 miles from San Diego where I live. If I still lived in Jersey, I could roadtrip down to M3 or something, but I can't go back to shoveling snow. :)
April 4, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterBob
I find Ace's comments very provocative. As a person who has suffered through long (classic and glam) metal dry spells in the P. Northwest and Bay Area (and experienced some refreshing changes of pace in PA), I think he is on to something. I am not sure how far I would push it without tipping into a huge (and perhaps hasty) generalization. Still, it makes some sense.

I think there are economic factors at play, as well as demographic issues as well. The coasts have been driven towards supplying what the market will allow. In many cases, that means that costs (rent, taxes, etc.) push towards format changes, closures, and following trend-lines. Those trend lines are dictated by what the populace wants. As urban areas undergo renewal (read: younger people moving back into city-centers after decades of flight, white or otherwise), they bring with them their incomes and tastes. Broader trends in music thus glom onto coastal centers and make them havens for the most widely shared (and trendy) genres and sub-genres of music, while also taking in diverse sub-genres that cater to newer demographic sets. So the classic stuff gets pushed inward, towards places that haven't experienced, relatively speaking, as much churn in terms of income levels and demographics. Generally speaking, the bleached face of metal is getting older alongside their bands as the broader coastal face is growing more varied in complexion, taste, etc.

Sure, there are exceptions to all of this and pockets on the coasts. But real estate, particularly commercial, is driven to hit that sweet spot that attracts the most eligible consumer (with music, so too bars, restaurants, theaters). Sadly, glam and classic metal aren't drivers when you are thinking per sq. ft. But if you are in an area that has relative stasis, those factors are less apparent or important. What plays in the Heartland still plays (at least more often) in the Heartland.

Other factors--race, class, migration patterns, etc.--also factor into these trends. And let us not forget that even Middle America is susceptible to being co-opted by market forces that are entrenched on the coasts (see: Rocklahoma). So the argument, at least as I see it, works best for smaller venues in smaller spaces where demographics haven't undergone significant shifts. You still have, in essence, target audiences that are stable and have grown up and older alongside the nostalgia acts that struggle to find places/space to play in bigger markets. In the latter, nostalgia acts get pushed into fewer spaces unless they reached some form of peak status that carried over from their heyday and/or that can be funneled into more and more packaged tours that tilt towards a "some old, a lot new and similar."

It isn't necessarily a market-critique approach to metal. But there is something to Ace's observations, something that has been bothering me for some time. Glad he took the time to express it so succinctly while I, as per usual, launched into a digression.

Thanks, Ace, for forcing me to think more seriously about my nagging questions.
April 5, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterHim
I find Ace's comments very provocative. As a person who has suffered through long (classic and glam) metal dry spells in the P. Northwest and Bay Area (and experienced some refreshing changes of pace in PA), I think he is on to something. I am not sure how far I would push it without tipping into a huge (and perhaps hasty) generalization. Still, it makes some sense.

I think there are economic factors at play, as well as demographic issues as well. The coasts have been driven towards supplying what the market will allow. In many cases, that means that costs (rent, taxes, etc.) push towards format changes, closures, and following trend-lines. Those trend lines are dictated by what the populace wants. As urban areas undergo renewal (read: younger people moving back into city-centers after decades of flight, white or otherwise), they bring with them their incomes and tastes. Broader trends in music thus glom onto coastal centers and make them havens for the most widely shared (and trendy) genres and sub-genres of music, while also taking in diverse sub-genres that cater to newer demographic sets. So the classic stuff gets pushed inward, towards places that haven't experienced, relatively speaking, as much churn in terms of income levels and demographics. Generally speaking, the bleached face of metal is getting older alongside their bands as the broader coastal face is growing more varied in complexion, taste, etc.

Sure, there are exceptions to all of this and pockets on the coasts. But real estate, particularly commercial, is driven to hit that sweet spot that attracts the most eligible consumer (with music, so too bars, restaurants, theaters). Sadly, glam and classic metal aren't drivers when you are thinking per sq. ft. But if you are in an area that has relative stasis, those factors are less apparent or important. What plays in the Heartland still plays (at least more often) in the Heartland.

Other factors--race, class, migration patterns, etc.--also factor into these trends. And let us not forget that even Middle America is susceptible to being co-opted by market forces that are entrenched on the coasts (see: Rocklahoma). So the argument, at least as I see it, works best for smaller venues in smaller spaces where demographics haven't undergone significant shifts. You still have, in essence, target audiences that are stable and have grown up and older alongside the nostalgia acts that struggle to find places/space to play in bigger markets. In the latter, nostalgia acts get pushed into fewer spaces unless they reached some form of peak status that carried over from their heyday and/or that can be funneled into more and more packaged tours that tilt towards a "some old, a lot new and similar."

It isn't necessarily a market-critique approach to metal. But there is something to Ace's observations, something that has been bothering me for some time. Glad he took the time to express it so succinctly while I, as per usual, launched into a digression.

Thanks, Ace, for forcing me to think more seriously about my nagging questions.
April 5, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterHim
Wow, Him! One particular quote in your post really hits the nail so hard on the head it almost hurts. "real estate, particularly commercial, is driven to hit that sweet spot that attracts the most eligible consumer (with music, so too bars, restaurants, theaters). Sadly, glam and classic metal aren't drivers when you are thinking per sq. ft." I imagine that when you write, "the most eligible consumer" you are diplomatically saying, "People with lots of money." Sadrly, you are absolutely correct about this. The word I hear all the time in San Diego is, "Upscale." Any new restaurant or bar that opens up is always trying to attract an upscale clientelle. Until your post, I hadn't really considered that businesses can't afford to pay their leases by catering to regular people. Combine that with the fact that most people in this city earn a salary that is disproportionately low compared to the cost of living here, and you end up with a situation where regular people can't afford to patronize these businesses, so they have to find less expensive ways to enjoy their leasure time. Once again, as with everything else in our materialistic society, money rules everything.
April 5, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterBob

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