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Aug182015

Battle of the Bands: WASP and/or Maiden?

Today, another post from our friend HIM!

It was one of those rarer and rarer weeks in metal: two recognized “heritage” metal bands; two new releases. But, in some ways, the two bands couldn’t be more different.

First up, Iron Maiden and the new song “Speed of Light” off the forthcoming The Book of Souls album:


 

Next up, W.A.S.P.’s “Last Runaway” off of the forthcoming album Golgotha:



The former has continued to blaze a trail sold-out stadiums (in South America and elsewhere), recovering some of the luster they lost after Bruce Dickinson left the band . . . by welcoming him and Adrian Smith back into the fold in 1999. The latter has experienced numerous lineup changes and shrinking fortunes in the years since their 80’s heyday, none more apparent than the loss (and then loss again) of Chris Holmes in 2001.

Both songs find both bands in good form considering their years in the game. Maiden was formed in 1975 by bassist Steve Harris, who is 59. W.A.S.P. was formed in 1982 and Blackie Lawless is a well-worn 58, having suffered in recent years from some health issues. They both belong to an increasingly shrinking club of bands who made their names in the golden years of metal and still continue to ply their trade, regardless the divergent paths they find themselves on. In an age where the once indestructible Lemmy—pale, drawn, and frail—can barely recall the right song to sing, that matters.

The initial reactions from the keyboard quarterbacks are as one would expect. On the one hand, some claim that Maiden is just repeating past glories and Dickinson’s holy orifice—his mouth, and those vocals which lifted the band past its punkish/NWBHM origins in the hands of singer Paul Di’Anno—is starting to show signs of age. On the other, this is the best thing ever released and shows fans of watered down contemporary metal how it is done. On the one hand, W.A.S.P. sound far too upbeat and really need to get back to the glories of their self-titled debut and The Last Command. On the other, this is perfectly in keeping with some of their lesser known but well-regarded songs, such as “Inside the Electric Circus” off the album of the same name or “Forever Free” off of The Headless Children.

Personally, I find the release by W.A.S.P. the more tantalizing of the two. W.A.S.P. are, and will continue to be, a guilty pleasure for me for one signal reason (not the raw meat of the past, or the puerile lyrics of their most shock-provoking songs): Blackie’s voice. He can still sing. He can still write songs that play to his strengths. Now if he can only keep the fans happy while also navigating his new-ish calling to bring a religious element into a catalog that was once so thoroughly bereft of any.

Though I still enjoy Maiden, I occasionally fall into the first camp of interweb reactionaries: more of the same, even if it is—in some ways, like a lesser AC/DC—comforting to hear one of the bands of my youth consistently releasing solid songs (and fun to watch videos). I don’t fault Dickinson his voice, for the same reasons I don’t moan about Halford’s.

I am just glad both bands are around and will see them if I get the chance. So, where do you stand? Take one, take ‘em both, or leave them?

 

Reader Comments (16)

Maiden was formed in '75.
August 18, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterSnoot
Correct you are, Snoot. My apologies on the error. Thanks for spotting that!
August 18, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterHim
ROFLMAO.... As much respect as I have for the guy who taught me how to write a song, Blackie Lawless is NOT 58. That would make him 19-20 when he was in Sister, 17 during his quick trip in & out of the New York Dolls, 26 at W.A.S.P.'s debut, etc. Looks like is shaving a good 4 to 5 years off his official age. That being said, I still vote for him, for the same reason Allyson mentioned.... his unique voice. And I'd STILL like Blackie to show his real songwriting talents to his core audience. His forte' is his hidden, more Beatle-esque tunes. Stuff that never got released w/ WASP... Which is a damn shame. I still marvel at what he created with a beat up 4 track reel to reel recorder... "Silver Rain"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvjnyWTAS2w
August 18, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
I go with your vote for Lawless too, Ace (obviously . . . I wrote the darn thing). I love Iron Maiden, esp. the older stuff. But there is just something about WASP when Lawless is firing on all cylinders.

His listed age is 58, with a DOB of September 4, 1956 (and some sources--official and otherwise--online suggest he was barely 18 when he joined the NYDs and then started Killer Kane). Is he playing fast and loose with those dates, Ace? I totally goofed on the origin date for Iron Maiden (I know why, but who cares?). But I think I am on point with the rest of the dates/ages listed.

Incredible link as well. Have never heard that song before! I hope this is just a taste of what is to come when you finally get your book into our hands. You are a partisan, Ace. But your passion is never in question. Still would like a bit of an answer re: Lawless (the question I posted a couple of months ago).
August 18, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterHim
Neither to be honest. Last Maiden album I bought was Brave New World in 2001, and I consider that "new" maiden and it was 15 years ago lol
That WASP tune sounds like Bon Jovis "Blood Brothers".
August 18, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterKixchix
Both song are just ok. However, I'm glad to have new music from both camps.
August 18, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterB Lucas
Maiden is a big band, only outside of the states. Wasp isnt really a big band anywhere, anymore. However, ive gotta go with Wasp. Inside the Electric Circus & The Headless Children are better, imo, than anything Maiden's ever released. Eddie is a badass mascot, though!
August 18, 2015 | Unregistered Commenterbkallday
WASP is still big in other countries!
August 18, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterKevon
I absolutely love the new Iron Maiden song, I hope they tour here in the states for support, I'd go in a heartbeat. The new WASP isn't doing anything for me personally though, I can't get into it, I'll definitely check out more new stuff by them before i judge the album, although the Neon God albums were phenomenal, awesome storytelling. It's about ten years old, but check it out if you haven't heard it.
August 18, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterDj
HIM, Sorry I didn't pick up that you wrote the article & not Allyson until after I had posted.
(there USED to be an "Edit" feature... I used it often!) I'm gonna say Blackie or whoever is years-shaving when it comes to his bio. I know he did it back in the day, when labels were shy to sign anyone over 25. I'm not shy... I'm 54 & first came in contact w/ Blackie the day before my 16th birthday, Seeing Quiet Riot w/ Randy Rhoads open 3rd on the bill to Blackie's band, "Sister" at the Troubadour in L.A. That was After the Dolls.. After Killer Kane had run it's course, & pre-Circus Circus & what became W.A.S.P. There's some serious time compression going on, to get all those bands into that time frame. As for your question, I must've missed it... my email address is no secret... acesteele @ gmail . Ask me again there. That way, I can answer & share a couple other gems like Silver Rain w/ you, that would make the picture into his songwriting much clearer.
August 18, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
Let your ears tell you the cold hard facts here, kidz! Both vocalists are detectably faltering on these cuts, Blackie a bit more than Dickinson.

God Bless 'em both, considering their health issues and ages, that they can carry a tune at all. I'm also surprised the vocals weren't cleaned up more in both cases.

As far as the songwriting goes, as B Lucas says, they're just okay, though I also agree with HIM and BK that WASP eeks out Maiden here.

It's no secret if you've read any of my previous comments here over the years, how I feel about Maiden, which isn't much. That said, I don't think this is their worst moment. That said, this isn't one of WASP's better moments, either, though it still beats Maiden, though, just barely.
August 18, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
And, Ace, as usual, thanks for yet another glimpse under the tent of Circus Circus... just amazing stuff and HIM is right -- You just gotta get get that book out!
August 18, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
I always wonder if these early single releases online suffer from some intended compression and distortion to keep fans from ripping them to their iWhatevers and the like. Not my area of expertise. So I wouldn't know. But I have heard quite a few of them sound weak on YouTube (and even on band websites), only to hear much cleaner versions later on . . . on CD, Pandora, and even YouTube.

Some great posts. And Bkallday is right (another point of contact): Eddie is one of those legendary metal mascots, up there with Snaggletooth for Motorhead. Without them, no Vic Rattlehead.
August 19, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterHim
HIM, indeed, I've noticed the same thing and I recall others commenting the same regarding rough mixes.

p.s. Speaking of mascots, let's not forget that "Gabba! Gabba! Hey!" Dude who running around onstage at every Ramones show in a weird goblin mask waving a sign touting that message during the song of the same title. Don't know if he had a name, but surely he qualifies as a mascot of sorts, though I'm not sure if he was considered an official one.
August 19, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
"Zippy the Pinhead".
August 20, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
Zippy The Pinhead! That's it! If there's ever a subject for a documentary waiting to be made... I believe the guy under the costume was actually also the graphic designer who designed all the Ramones' logos and graphics.
August 21, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!

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