Sunday
Dec292013
Very Rare Sex Pistols Video Clip
Sunday, December 29, 2013 at 12:01AM If you're a fan of the Sex Pistols and punk, get ready: a very rare clip of the band has just surfaced on YouTube. The previously unreleased clip is from a gig at Ivanhoe's Nightclub in Huddersfield (U.K.) on Christmas Day. The Guardian has a nice article about the video.
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If you doubt the significance of The Sex Pistols, you can ask Mötley Crüe about The Pistols' influence on Crue's sound AND attitude. There's a reason why they cover "Anarchy In The U.K", albeit, renamed "Anarchy In The U.S.A."!
Also:
Vince Neil covers "No Feelings"
Skid Row covers "Holidays In The Sun"
Velvet Revolver covers "Bodies"
Jones is doing more than "ape" him, he's flat out lifting his riffs, hook, line and syncer! It's no coincidence Malcolm McLaren was the manager of first The Dolls and then The Pistols right after that. He's the one who priest exposed Jones to those Thunders licks on The first Dolls album (produced by none other than Todd Rundgren).
Poison then copped the same riffs, most likely listening to both albums but staring obsessively at The Dolls' album cover for sartorial inspiration.
Glad everyone agrees The Pistols Kick A*s Royale. I've got all their LPs, 45s and many official record company posters plus I saw 'em on their reunion tour back 1996.
They were AMAZING but almost "too good" as by that time Jones had learned how to play and already put out all those "Metal" solo albums. Wish I had seen 'em as they were captured in this footage.
Can't wait to see the rest of it.
p.s. Julien Temple, who shot the rare footage, also shot Judas Priest's iconic "You've Got Another Thing Comin'" video among many others from the MTV heyday.
I'm pretty sure Steve was just talking about trying to have the same stage presence as Johnny Thunders.
Bobby Sixxkiller was right.
The New York Dolls have more in common w/Poison & I'm talking purely about the music.
There's a reason the New York Dolls went on tour w/Poison a couple years ago.
The Sex Pistols would stick out like a sore thumb touring w/Poison.
The New York Dolls made perfect sense.
Saying the Sex Pistols are like the New York Dolls is like comparing Nirvana to Poison. It's night & day, the bands sound very different.
You'll hear the riffs Jones admits to copping.
AND then listen to Poison's first album, "Look What The Cat Dragged In" to hear DeVille copping them all over again.
I agree w/you on the Poison thing.
That's what I was trying to say before.
The only New York Dolls songs that sound remotely like Sex Pistols are "Bad Girl" & maybe "Jet Boy".
Other than those 2 songs they sound nothing alike.
Like I said before I know Steve Jones is a big fan of Johnny Thunders & he says he copied him but...
If it weren't for Steve always mentioning Johnny Thunders, I would have never in a million years ever made that connection & I still don't hear any similarities to this day.
The New York Dolls have a very radio friendly sound compared to the Sex Pistols.
All I'm talking about is how the bands sound regardless of who influenced who or who came out first.
"There's a reason the New York Dolls went on tour w/Poison a couple years ago."
YEAH. There is. Obviously you don't have the first inkling of what it is, though...
That billing happened because Nikki Sixx wanted his favorite band growing up,to be on HIS tour. Poison's spot on that bill was only because of an arrangement with the tour's booking agency. Poison was the ones that were added to Motley's tour w/ the Dolls as an opener. And they took a cut rate fee, that made it worth it for Motley & LiveNation to add them to the tour, in hopes of boosting sales of tickets. A pure business deal, nothing more. In fact, Nikki didn't really want Brett & company on the tour, but it made business sense, & he was beholden to the whims of LiveNation, anyways. Keep in mind, that was Motley's 2nd tour without any tour support from a record label. There were very definite "break even points" in the amount of tickets needing to be sold, just to not lose money. Poison's presence on the bill was "insurance" to make sure they hit those marks. NOTHING more.
Even if it was "Pure Business" they didn't just randomly pick band names out of hat. There was still a method to the madness. They toured together because they pretty much drew the same kind of fans for the most part. I bit my tongue before because I didn't want to insult you but that was a big mistake on my part.
Your clueless, ignorant post was what started this ridiculous argument. Sex Pistols are real punk and the New York Dolls are 70's glam rock. Stop acting like you always know what you are talking about dude cause you clearly don't.
Both absurd comments you left made me laugh out loud.
It's painfully obvious that you are in way over head on this one.
You can't honestly think the only reason Poison & the New York Dolls were on the same tour was simply by the sheer coincidence of a business deal.
Can't wait to read your next ridiculous comment.
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I assume Ace knows what he's talking about to a degree with The Crue/Poison/Dolls Tour arrangements with LiveNation but Lembeck is right -- putting Poison on the bill with Crüe is the primary reason for the tours virtually guaranteed success -- because the two bands share the same fan base.
I for one, can't tell you how many times we would play Crüe albums back to back with Poison's "Look What The Cat Dragged In" at parties, in fact, over and over again, at the same party, hahaha!!!
And there's a reason I bought The Doll's first album in '77 weeks after buying The Pistol's first album. And that's cuz the press like Rolling Stone, Creem, Trouser Press, Relix, et al, plus all the dudes in the record stores I used to frequent up in Glen Burnie and Baltimore were talking up how Jones copped Thunders' riffs.
I went through the same experiment back then I assume Jakki just went through and heard it for myself.
I love both bands and I've seen both bands. Same goes for Crüe and Poison.
Look, I never said The Pistols "sound" like The Dolls. Lembeck's right when he says The Dolls are Glam Rock and The Pistols are Punk but your kidding yourselves if you don't think McLaren didn't apply the "Punk Attitude" of The Dolls to The Pistols when HE formed the latter out of his London boutique, "SEX". Remember, he was manager of both bands, first The Dolls, then The Pistols.
And he also turned Jones onto Thunder's riffs and they can be found ALL OVER "Never Mind The Bullocks". AND Poison & Crüe albums.
If you guys can't hear 'em, your deaf!
Thunders IS the primary connection, musically between Punk and Glam Metal.
In the words of another seminal THINKING MAN'S Punk Band, GANG OF FOUR, "Know Your Product".
Now you are saying that the Sex Pistols, Motley Crue and Poison all sound like the New York Dolls.
That is INSANE.
The only reason I brought up Poison was because they have a very radio friendly pop sound to them like the New York Dolls.
NOT because I thought they stole the riffs.
You are giving the New York Dolls way too much credit.
AGAIN:
All I'm talking about is how the bands SOUND regardless of who influenced who or who came out first (or who supposedly stole the riffs).
I've been listening to the New York Dolls for around 25 years.
It's not like I just discovered them the other day.
I didn't need to do any experiment, I've listened to the New York Dolls a million times.
Sex Pistols they are not.
I was never once talking about any bands look or if Malcolm McLaren was the manager at one point in time.
That has nothing to do w/if the bands sound the same.
Good job turning this discussion into a war of words. Very adult like of you. Everybody was just having a back and forth debate but you just had to take the low road and completely change the tone of this thread.
You're a real winner, Ace.
This is NOT strictly a discussion on your terms. Can you read? I SAID I'm not talking about SOUND! I'm talkin' riffs!
The Pistols, Poison AND Crüe plus a sh*tload of other bands have all been influenced by The Dolls and have lifted Johnny Thunders' riffs, plain and simple.
If you can't hear those riffs in those bands' music you're frickin' deaf, dude.
p.s. You said yourself you could trace some of Jones' riffs to Thunders on "Jetboy". You can also hear Thunders riffs on "Talk Dirty To Me" and "Nothin' But A Good Time", among other Poison songs. All of these bands are connected to The Dolls and owe to Thunders original riffs.